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Re: C++

Unread postby askey127 » January 4th, 2008, 4:42 pm

The single Clearest book I have ever read on Delphi is Delphi 4 Bible by Tom Swan.
It was published by IDG Books Worldwide, and the ISBN is : 0-7645-3237-5
It has been out of print for a while, but you may be able to find one via used books outlets on the Net.
I am not familiar with the text that Novi mentioned.

You also can get hundreds of Delphi code samples by downloading the Jedi Code Library from Sourceforge.net
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfile ... p_id=47514
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Re: C++

Unread postby Vino Rosso » January 4th, 2008, 6:12 pm

I'm trying to download the pre-requisites for installing Turbo Delphi - .NET SDK, Visual J#, XML Core Services, etc. but the provided linky just comes back with 'page not found'. Don't suppose you Guys have a working link?
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Re: C++

Unread postby Noviciate » January 4th, 2008, 6:35 pm

Taken from http://cc.codegear.com/Free.aspx?id=24722 -
Turbo Delphi Explorer Free Download, Full Product, English
Important: You must download and install the following prerequisites before installing your Turbo product

The prerequisite installer will install the software necessary for your Turbo product to run, including Microsoft .NET Framework v1.1 Redistributable, Microsoft .NET SDK v1.1, Microsoft Visual J# v1.1 Redistributable, Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 SP1 and Microsoft XML Core Services v4.0 SP2. If you already have any of these items installed, the installer will skip them.
English full prerequisite install

Did you try clicking the linky "English full prerequisite install" above? It offers me prereqs.zip.
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Re: C++

Unread postby Vino Rosso » January 4th, 2008, 7:22 pm

Had gone with the link in the Turbo Delphi installer... missed your one, Novi.

Thanks.
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Re: C++

Unread postby ndmmxiaomayi » January 4th, 2008, 11:13 pm

VB shouldn't be too hard. If you find it too hard, try Python. It's an even higher language than VB as it's an interpreted language. What you enter is what you get (sort of when at the basic level). But the downside of this is... it's slow.
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Re: C++

Unread postby Alander » January 5th, 2008, 1:16 am

Vino Rosso wrote:Some say that those just starting to look at programming should consider C# (C sharp) as a better option to C++.

Any thoughts on this?


Yes c# is a better option, why

For c++ u have to worry about memory allocation, and alot of other advanced stuff, but for c# everything is taken care of, and u dun have to worry about memory leak and stuff like that..

Yes i can tell you memory leaking problems in programming is a pain, and if you do not have the basics of programming you will feel really irritated by it


If anyone is interested, you can download the free complier from M$, google
Visual Basic 2005 Express Edition, there is a 2008 version but its still beta.. and not recommended for ppl that are new
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Re: C++

Unread postby AdvancedSetup » January 5th, 2008, 5:22 am

Starting out with C++ as your first learning language is quite a leap. It would probably be much faster and easier
to start out with something like Pascal, Delphi, or VB - or one of the Scripting Languages (Perl, Ruby, VBScript, KiXtart, PowerShell, etc)

Then if you still want to learn C++ you will have a much better understanding of what's involved in learning such a language.
Here are some resources to further your interests.
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The Microsoft Visual Studio Express 2005 Editions do not appear to be available for download from Microsoft at this time.
The Microsoft Visual Studio Express 2008 Editions are RELEASED versions and are not beta anymore

Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Express
http://www.microsoft.com/express/

Visual Studio 2008 Express Edition All-in-One DVD - OFFLINE Install (895MB)
http://www.microsoft.com/express/download/

Visual Studio 2008
On Monday, Nov. 19, Microsoft announced that Visual Studio 2008 and the .NET Framework 3.5 were released to manufacturing (RTM)
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/default.aspx

Performance Improvements in Visual Studio 2008
http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=328382

Visual Studio 2008 and .NET 3.5 Released
http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/ ... eased.aspx
My name is Scott Guthrie, and I am a General Manager within the Microsoft Developer Division. I run the development teams that build the following products/technologies:

* CLR and the core .NET Base Class Libraries
* ASP.NET
* Silverlight
* WPF
* IIS 7.0
* Visual Studio Tools for ASP.NET, WPF and Silverlight

http://www.digitalmars.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_%28progr ... anguage%29
Digital Mars C and C++ Compilers for Win32, Win16, DOS32 and DOS. Fastest compile/link times, powerful optimization technology, Design by Contract, complete library source, HTML browsable documentation, disassembler, librarian, resource compiler, make, etc., command line and GUI versions, tutorials, sample code, online updates, Standard Template Library, and much more.

Microsoft Macro Assembler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MASM
http://www.masm32.com/
MASM32 Forum
http://www.masm32.com/board/index.php
MASM32 version 9 is a working development for programmers who are interested in either learning or writing 32 bit Microsoft assembler (MASM). Installation is an automated process that will install on the local drive of your choice. MASM32 will not install on a network drive.

Visual C++
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_C%2B%2B

Wikibooks:Programming languages bookshelf
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks: ... _bookshelf

Microsoft Development Forums
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/default.aspx?SiteID=1

Code Guru
http://www.codeguru.com/

Programmers Heaven. It's all here!
Over 32245 files, links and articles to explore.
http://www.programmersheaven.com/

Dev Central
http://devcentral.iticentral.com/default.php

Dev Shed Forums
http://forums.devshed.com/

C++ Language Tutorial
http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

http://www.cprogramming.com/
Cprogramming.com is a web site designed to help you learn the C or C++ programming languages, and provide you with C and C++ programming language resources.

These tutorials were developed as part of a series of courses on C++ I taught at the University of California, Irvine, Washington University, St. Louis, and Vanderbilt University
http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/C++/

CFanatic forums
http://www.cfanatic.com/

Basement Computing
http://www.physiology.wisc.edu/comp/

Visual C++ Concepts: Building a C/C++ Program Troubleshooting C/C++ Isolated Applications and Side-by-side Assemblies
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms235342.aspx

Borland
http://www.codegear.com/
Borland has formed CodeGear - a separate, new operation focused exclusively on maximizing developer productivity.

Turbo Explorer
http://www.turboexplorer.com/

Open Watcom
is a project of the open source community to maintain and enhance the Watcom C, C++, and Fortran cross compilers and tools.
http://www.openwatcom.org/index.php/Main_Page

CODE::BLOCKS The Open Source, Cross-platform, Free C/C++ IDE
http://www.codeblocks.org/

C
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_(programming_language)

List of programming languages by category
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorica ... _languages

Comparison of programming languages
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison ... _languages

Alphabetical list of notable programming languages
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabetic ... _languages

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Re: C++

Unread postby askey127 » January 5th, 2008, 10:15 am

There is at least one more programming thing going on that is relevant to this thread.
It's called Lazarus (SourceForge auspices)
It's an open source rapid development system that is in beta, but available, and is expected to be able to develop and run on lots of platforms Windows, Sparc, Mac, Linux. All with essentially the same code and development environment.

The advantage is that it's not tied to any corporate marketing agenda or dependent on version obsolescence to make money.
http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=StaticPage&file=index&sURL=about
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Overview_of_Free_Pascal_and_Lazarus

It is open source, so volunteers run it. The goals are excellent, if they are able to follow through.
For Windows, you can read what the present limitations are. (Has not many limitations for standalone utilities like we use)
Most of the incomplete areas are for database interfaces and COM objects.
It has its own forum
http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=index

The Windows executable will essentially install and run right out of the box. No prerequisites. Really simpler than anything else, and no Key Codes!
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=89339

It uses Free Pascal code, and is very similar to Delphi. Most of Delphi documentation is useful. Lazarus documentation is online, and can be copied to .doc files, converted to .pdf's, or printed out.
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Re: C++

Unread postby GGiTzKevin » January 6th, 2008, 6:06 pm

Thanks for all your help everyone. I'm starting with C++ because I hope that by learning the harder one first, I'll be able to learn the other languages easily.
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Re: C++

Unread postby Vino Rosso » January 6th, 2008, 6:21 pm

GGiTzKevin wrote:Thanks for all your help everyone. I'm starting with C++ because I hope that by learning the harder one first, I'll be able to learn the other languages easily.

Not sure I agree with that but best of luck anyway. Let us know how you get on.
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Re: C++

Unread postby askey127 » January 6th, 2008, 6:49 pm

I would suggest you try to code a Notepad-like editor, and if it proves too difficult, get out and do another language first.
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Re: C++

Unread postby GGiTzKevin » January 7th, 2008, 7:34 pm

Okay, thanks again. I'm going to be busy, with MRU and schoolwork, so I might hold off on the C++ for a few weeks.
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Re: C++

Unread postby Drewcat » January 9th, 2008, 4:12 pm

I think its probably a No on the gaming hacks Kevin.
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